skip to main content

Problems on French Trains for Musicians with Large Instruments

A recent meeting of the International Federation of Musicians Europe group has revealed that musicians with large instruments such as double basses are being stopped from travelling on some French trains.

Photo ofDave Webster
By Dave Webster Published: 16 December 2022 | 12:26 PM
View from a train window as it hurtles through green countryside and farms.
If you are planning to visit or tour France by train, then be sure to check on the current situation. Photo credit: Shutterstock

At a time when we are all thinking about how we can reduce our touring carbon footprint and considering travelling across France by train, if you have a large instrument then it might be easier to go by car.

The most recent meeting of the International Federation of Musicians Europe group revealed that the MU in France – SNAM, have been in talks with French train company SNCF regarding the ban they have placed on musicians travelling on their fast TGV trains with large instruments. This, say SNCF, is due to their trains not being big enough to accommodate such instruments, however our colleagues in SNAM are disputing this.

Musicians with large instruments advised to avoid TGV trains

The French national train company, SNCF does not allow oversize instruments (up to 130 cm x 90 cm), such as double basses, harps, tubas, etc., in their fast trains (TGV). Musicians holding valid tickets with their instruments have been fined or even expelled or barred from entering trains.

The French musicians’ union SNAM has been negotiating with SNCF to find a reasonable solution (including paying extra room), but SNCF are sticking to their guns. SNAM is currently leading a campaign of protest. However, as long as the situation remains, foreign musicians travelling to France with these instruments are advised to avoid TGV trains.

Not all trains have the same level of restrictions and enforcement

If you are planning to visit or tour France by train, then be sure to check on the current situation. There are other train companies, and we are told that non–TGV trains are not subject to the same strict level of restrictions and enforcement.

However, levels of enforcement across the other train companies do vary, but it is generally problematic for all rail operators across France accommodating musicians with large instruments.

We will keep members updated on any progress.

Get MU membership today

From gig players to part-time teachers and professional instrumentalists, MU members can access specialist insurance for musicians. This includes Public Liability, Instrument and Equipment Insurance, Accident Insurance, Tax Investigation Insurance, and Professional Indemnity Insurance for music teachers.

Explore our member services

  • Get public liability insurance for musicians
  • Access expert legal support
  • Be represented in your profession
  • Access expert career advice, resources, and training events
  • Connect, network, and get to know the community of musicians

Learn about all membership benefits

Get MU membership today

Continue reading

The outside of the BBC Headquarters building.

BEAU Statement on BBC Charter Review Launch

The MU has joined sister unions in writing to Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport Lisa Nandy to reiterate the key principles that should underpin the BBC Charter Review process.

Published: 18 December 2025

Read more about BEAU Statement on BBC Charter Review Launch
Black and white image of a conductor in front of the orchestra pit in a theatre, cast members are on stage in the background out of focus.

MU Welcomes Arts Council England Review

We broadly welcome Baroness Margaret Hodge’s review of Arts Council England, which reflects many of the concerns raised by the MU and other creative unions. We will now press the government to respond positively to its recommendations.

Published: 18 December 2025

Read more about MU Welcomes Arts Council England Review
Naomi Pohl at Labour Party Conference 2024 holding a placard that says 'Labour's New Deal for Working People'.

Landmark Employment Rights Bill Becomes Law

The MU welcomes passage of the Employment Rights Bill, which will now become law. Shaped by trade union input, the legislation represents an important step forward for workers’ rights, equality and protections, with further reforms for freelancers promised in a second phase.

Published: 16 December 2025

Read more about Landmark Employment Rights Bill Becomes Law
A person's open palm holding a graphic of sound waves.

MU Urges Government to Back Musicians on AI

The MU is urging the Government to drop its original AI proposal after the interim consultation response revealed overwhelming opposition. With only 3% of respondents backing the preferred option, ministers must now deliver robust regulation to protect musicians’ rights.

Published: 16 December 2025

Read more about MU Urges Government to Back Musicians on AI